Pumpkin Pie and I - We're "Just Friends"

Every girl has one. Every girl has that guy that she’s “just friends” with. You’ve known each other for I-don’t-know-how-many years, but you’ve never once been attracted to him. No really, you’ve never ever been wildly attracted to him (it is possible for girls, you know) and the idea of dating him, well, makes you lol! because you’ve always been, and always will be, “just friends.” Now, he’s not your best friend because, for one thing, you’re only bestfriends with girls, and besides, he doesn’t even live in the same city, so how can you be BFFs with someone you can’t go shopping with everyday?!?! You get along just fine, and when he does come into town to visit family, or even, say, a girl who he’s dating, you and he will at least grab dinner. Whenever he’s around, you hang out, and heck, even though you’ve never been attracted to him, if you’ve been deprived of, well, you know, you might even play a little, but it’s so totally understood between both of you that this is so totally platonically physical.
It’s not like his laugh forever echoes in your ears, or his adorable crooked smile is emblazoned on your brain, or you get hot flashes in the middle of Ralph’s for God’s sake because you are always thinking about him. It’s not like you get butterflies the way you do when GolfChamp99 from match.com emails you.
You guys are “just friends.”
The thing is, all your BFFs and your family adore him. They love him. They think you and he should totally get married one day and why don’t you guys just try dating? They don’t understand why you aren’t all over this amazing, charming, funny, intelligent guy, and aren’t those all the man-characteristics that you talk about on your “list?” You don’t understand why you can see what they’re saying, but you can’t see what they’re saying, you know what I’m saying? You don’t not like him. Actually, you kind of wished that you did because, hm, now that they mention it, they’re right. He does have all the right characteristics, and you guys do get along so well, and if it actually worked out you wouldn’t have to waste all that time. You want to like him.
But you. Just. Can’t. You don't know what it is. He’s just sort of...you don’t know. You just can’t be passionate about him. There’s something missing. That spark. That je ne sais quois. The wildly passionate chemistry is not there to take it from *shrugs* we’re-just-friends to *shriek!* clothes on the floor the minute you walk in the door.
Pumpkin pie is like that guy. Pumpkin pie and I? We’re “just friends.”
It’s an ambiguous relationship. Perhaps “relationship” isn’t quite the right term to explain how I feel: I don’t love pumpkin pie, but I so desperately want to. I love all things pumpkin. Some of it has to do with my wicked sweet tooth falling victim to pumpkin foods most often being desserts, and some of it has to do with the warm spices that are always used with pumpkin. I love cinnamon, cloves, ginger, and nutmeg with pumpkin in breads, muffins, and pancakes. If pumpkin were usually cooked with say, cilantro, I don’t think I’d love it as much. Unlike with pumpkin, my relationship with cilantro is very clearly defined – I hate cilantro.
Now don’t get me wrong. It’s not that I hate pumpkin pie, or even to a lesser degree, that I don’t like pumpkin pie. It’s just that I don’t luuuuurrv pumpkin pie the way some people do. In fact, when it’s around, I eat it without thinking twice. I mean, for God’s sake, it’s still a pie. I’ll even eat leftover pumpkin pie that is sitting in the refrigerator because every guest who offered to “bring dessert” brought pumpkin pie instead of thinking to bring pecan or apple. I’ll peel back the plastic cling wrap from the pie dish that’s wedged between a tupperware of mashed potatoes and gallon-size ziploc bag of turkey breast, not even bothering to remove the pie from that middle shelf because I’ve sexily contorted my body so that my ass can prop open the refrigerator door while I sneak five or six bites straight from the pie dish with my fork. Did I just reveal too much about myself there?
It drives me mildly insane trying to understand why other people go completely bonkers over pumpkin pie. It isn’t bad (have I said that a few times already? I just don’t want to get flamed by all the pumpkin pie devotees out there), it’s just that almost always, the crust looks and tastes like soggy cardboard, and the pumpkin pie filling, which can be wonderfully fragrant and flavorful with rich spices, always has the mealy, squishy consistency of Gerber. Now that I think about it, evaporated milk kind of reminds me of infant formula, too.
Libby’s. I blame it all on Libby’s and the recipe for Libby’s Famous Pumpkin Pie on their can of pure pack pumpkin. They make pumpkin pie too easy. In an effort to sell their monster cans of pumpkin pie, they give you a recipe that makes two 9” pumpkin pies, and make it sound like it’s easier than heating up a Lean Cuisine in a microwave oven. All you do is dump eggs, sugar, and evaporated milk into a bowl, mix it up, pour into unbaked pie shells, and throw them in the oven. Somehow, I think they are subliminally telling you to buy Pillsbury pre-made pie crusts instead of making the pie crust from scratch. Libby’s famously easy pumpkin pie comes out famously soggy, famously squishy.
I want to love pumpkin pie because it’s pumpkin. I want to love it because it’s a dessert. I want to adore it because it’s made with all those wonderfully warm autumn spices. I want to look forward to the prospect of pumpkin pie with eager, longing, heart-pounding anticipation as soon as the calendar flips September to October. Pumpkin pie comes around only once a year, and I want a spring and summer absence to make my heart grow fonder...but it doesn’t. I don’t. I don’t love pumpkin pie. I don’t love you, pumpkin pie. But we can still be friends.
We just don’t have that connection the way others who love pumpkin pie have that connection. See, I have that connection with pumpkin cheesecake. I am so head over my stiletto heels for pumpkin cheesecake. Pumpkin cheesecake is my GolfChamp99, but pumpkin pie? Pumpkin pie is just my friend.
And then something happens. You’re running an errand, stopping off at the market, and your friend tags along just for the hell of it. While you’re standing in line and he’s rummaging through your purse looking for your club card because he knows you hate to not get that club card discount, you look at him with your head slightly tilted to the side. Did you do something with your hair? “Yeah, put some gel in it,” he replies, punching your telephone number into the keypad because the card is on the other keychain at home. Is that a new shirt? “Yeah, just got it. Cool, huh?” Very cool. And weird, because suddenly, he looks different to you, but you don’t think it’s the gel and the new shirt. He looks hot. Very hot. You snatch the celery and eggs, grab his hand, and run for the car, dragging him behind you.
That is what happened to me and my "just friend" pumpkin pie. I ran into this recipe from Cook’s Illustrated for the perfect pumpkin pie, re-printed at the Daily Olive. It promises a flaky, crisp crust. It promises a smooth, delicious, and firm filling. I baked it, sort of unsure of how I’d end up feeling. After a little more effort than the damn Libby’s-like recipes we’re used to (pre-bake the crust and cook the filling on the stovetop to hot), I slipped it gently into the oven. When it came out of the oven, slightly longer than the prescribed 25 minutes, I let it cool down. When it was time try it, I pierced through that soft, quivering custard with an 8” chef’s knife and pulled out a perfect, enormous piece. It was heavy. I put the piece on the plate and I wanted it naked, but I surrendered to the gentle pleas for whipped cream (not the Cook’s Illustrated brandied whipped cream, just plain), and I took a bite and after all these years, I finally fell in... like. A very very strong like. Not love yet, since after so many years of “just friends,” these weird new emotions with someone with whom you’ve never experienced them takes more time to get used to, but yes, the spark was finally lit. I had to call Mom and tell her.
Pumpkin pie and I? There's a little something going on between us now. ;)
tags :: food : and drink : american : thanksgiving : desserts : baking : los angeles


21 Comments:
congrats to you and your site for being included in the latimes, thursday calendar section!
great site.
thank you! thank you!
i am absolutely tickled delicious!
A good piece of pumpkin pie is a wonderful thing. Where's this one from or did you make it yourself?
hey lady! my sister and i baked pumpkin pies together the night before thanksgiving based on the recipe from cook's illustrated (link in that last paragraph) :)
Sounds like pumpkin pie just became FWB...friends with benefits :) lol. Remember me when you are famous!!! When I get back to LA, I'll have a 30 minute video of Carl Cox @ Love Parade SF for you to dl.
I can SO sympathize with you. On both fronts. Everyone (and their pumpkin-pie loving asses) think I'm crazy for not loving the stuff. And they also think I'm insane for not loving a certain fella. Can I help it if I don't get hot and bothered by both? Please.
No no no...
Pumpkin pie, one of my faves, is best with a toasted graham cracker crust... But I understand the benefits of a good flakeolicious one... :)
But the gentle crunch and caramelized sweetness of a pre-toasted graham cracker crust (without too much cinnamon) is oh so excellent.
Oh.. and one time, not at band camp, I didn't have any evaporated milk that goes in one recipe I have, so I put in condensed milk, instead. It turned out rather rich but a little sweeter, so since then, I throw a little in to make a nice accent.
djjewelz: can't wait for the big black cox. oh dear, that doesn't sound right, now does it? LOL!
vanessa: you gotta try pumpkin cheesecake though :)
plau: hm, i don't think i have EVER tried it with the graham cracker crust - i've always thought that the grahama cracker crust for SURE would become sodden from the very liquidy pumpkin fie filling. and i have seen a few receipes with the sweetened condensed milk, too.
Yes, I too had this type of relationship with pumpkin pie. Although, it's progressed into a heavy and quite serious one after learning a Midwest version of it - using a Winter Squash instead of Pumpkin. Mmmm...mmm...good!
And congrats on being in the LA Times! =)
The LA Times?? This calls for another slice of pumpkin pie (and doing bikram yoga overtime)! ;) Speaking of pie, what kind of camera do you use? You're pix are impressive!
Sarah,
Can't you think of a more interesting phrase than "for God's sake", you've used it twice in this entry and it's really annoying....
for fox ache!
l.a.c. (spoofing Anon grumpy/meanie's, lol)
Did you actually use the ground cloves? I've never heard of somebody using cloves like that. Am I missing out on something?
thanks again, y'all re: l.a. times! it was kinda cool to see the blog's name like that! *chuckle*
cat: i use a pretty easy-to-use point and shoot camera - canon powershot s500. it was a gift last year, and it's already outdated! the newer ones are even tinier, so it's very convenient to carry around with me to...restaurants...and the market. LOL!
once i learn how to take really GOOD pictures, i might ask for one of the big fat fancy digital cameras :)
l.a.c: i think i use the word "delicious" a lot, too ;)
u: yep, use the cloves. it's pretty strong, so that's probably why it's only a quarter teaspoon. i see cloves used quite often with pumpkin, though some people might leave it out because it really is pretty strong. :)
Your Canon s500 must have a micro option on it. I love that you can take up close detailed shots! I use an Olympus Camedia C 60 and it doesn't allow for macro photography, so I have to crop images in photoshop. Fun, but time consuming.
Oh, I forgot to say, congratulations on becoming an aunt. I'm an uncle, and it is great fun. Significantly more fun than being a parent, I am told! :)
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Woah! lacheesmonger, I'm really impressed. You're wealth of information! Thank you for the in-depth response, I'm very excited to try these suggestions. Just when I thought I knew everything about my little friend...
Hey Sarah, much appreciation for letting me turn your comment page into my personal photography Q&A. :)
Oh.. per the soggy graham cracker crust... I found the egg yolk - prebake combo made for an excellent soggy-prevention barrier. Still had crunch
It really worked out well.. I wonder if there's an equally efficient less caloric method.. but who cares at that point.. :)
Pumpkin pie is not about the taste at all ... it's about symbolic home-ness. My anecdotal evidence: on Thanksgiving, while a first year graduate student in LA, transplanted from NJ, I was feeling particularly sorry for myself, being far from home and loved ones, and bought myself a pumpkin pie from Ralph's and a tub of cool whip. Several hours and several thousand calories later (yes, I consumed the whole durn thing), I felt MUCH better. !!!
Superbowl Sunday, February 5th, 2006
Sarah said: "breast, not even bothering to remove the pie from that middle shelf because I’ve sexily contorted my body so that my ass can prop open the refrigerator door"
Never have so few words caused so much consternation; stop tempting me Sarah, I just can't get the image out of my head ;-)
"breast, sexily contorted my body so that my ass can prop open".... who me? Why I would never intentionally quote Sarah out of context, that's what attorneys do for a living, lol.
Speaking of which, maybe some food pr0n humor is on point here as today, lots of beer and other alcoholic beverages (I'm still pigging out on dim sum for Chinese New Years, lol) will be consumed during the Superbowl??? Only vaguely related to the 'keywords' in Sarah's entry, lol
Number #1
Confession booth 2
Fellow goes to confession and tells the priest "Father, I've done something terrible. I just know they're going to throw me out of the church for this one."
"Hold, on," says the priest, "what have you done that's so bad they're going to throw you out of the church?"
"Yesterday, my wife was bent over a sack of potatoes and I looked at her ass and got so turned on I went lifted her skirt and had sex with her right there and then."
"There's nothing wrong with that," says the priest, "you're allowed to have sex with your wife.
Why on earth would you think they would throw you out of the church for that?"
"Well," the man said, "they threw us out of the grocery store."
Number #2
Okay folks, this is for real...you only have to wait a while before it starts circulating your mailboxes:
.. Just imagine sitting in traffic on your way to
work and hearing this. Many Chicago folks DID hear this on the WBAM FM
morning show in Chicago. The DJs play a game where they award winners great prizes. The game is called "Mate Match". The DJs call someone at work and ask if they are married or seriously involved with someone. If the contestant answers "yes", he or she is then asked 3 random yet highly personal questions. The person is also asked to divulge the name of their partner (with phone number) for verification. If their partner answers those same three questions correctly, they both win the prize.
One particular game, however, several months ago made the City of Big
Shoulders drop to its knees with laughter and is possibly the funniest thing I've heard yet. Anyway, here's how it all went down:
DJ: "Hey! This is Edgar on WBAM. Have you ever heard of 'MateMatch'?"
Contestant: (laughing) "Yes, I have."
DJ: "Great! Then you know we're giving away a trip to Orlando, Florida if you win. What is your name? First only please."
Contestant: "Brian."
DJ: "Brian, are you married or what?"
Brian: "Yes."
DJ: "Yes? Does that mean you're married or you're what?"
Brian: (laughing nervously) "Yes, I am married."
DJ: "Thank you. Now, what is your wife's name?
First only please."
Brian: "Sara."
DJ: "Is Sara at work, Brian?"
Brian: "She is gonna kill me."
DJ: "Stay with me here, Brian! Is she at work?"
Brian: (laughing) "Yes, she's at work."
DJ: "Okay, first question - when was the last time you had sex?"
Brian: "She is gonna kill me."
DJ: "Brian! Stay with me here!"
Brian: "About 8 o'clock this morning."
DJ: "Atta boy, Brian."
Brian: (laughing sheepishly) "Well..."
DJ: "Question #2 - How long did it last?"
Brian: "About 10 minutes."
DJ: "Wow! You really want that trip, huh? No one would ever have said that if a trip wasn't at stake."
Brian: "Yeah, that trip sure would be nice."
DJ: "Okay. Final question. Where did you have sex at 8 o'clock this
morning?"
Brian: (laughing hard) "I, ummm, I, well..."
DJ: "This sounds good, Brian. Where was it at?"
Brian: "Not that it was all that great, but her mom is staying with us for a couple of weeks..."
DJ: "Uh huh..."
Brian: "...and the Mother-In-Law was in the shower at the time."
DJ: "Atta boy, Brian."
Brian: "On the kitchen table."
DJ: "Not that great?? That is more adventure than the previous hundred times I've done it. Okay folks, I will put Brian on hold, get this wife's work number and call her up. You listen to this."
3 minutes of commercials follow.
DJ: "Okay audience, let's call Sara, shall we?"
(touch tones.....ringing....)
Clerk: "Kinkos."
DJ: "Hey, is Sara around there somewhere?"
Clerk: "This is she."
DJ: "Sara, this is Edgar with WBAM. We are live on the air right now and I've been talking with Brian for a couple of hours now."
Sarah: (laughing) "A couple of hours?"
DJ: "Well, a while now. He is on the line with us.
Brian knows not to give any answers away or you'll lose. Sooooooo... do you know the rules of 'MateMatch'?"
Sarah: "No."
DJ: "Good!"
Brian: (laughing)
Sarah: (laughing) "Brian, what the hell are you up to?"
Brian (laughing) "Just answer his questions honestly, okay? Be
completely honest."
DJ: "Yeah yeah yeah. Sure. Now, I will ask you 3 questions, Sarah. If your answers match Brian's answers, then the both of you
will be off to Orlando, Florida for 5 days on us. Disney World. Sea World. Tickets to the Magic's game. The whole deal. Get it
Sarah?"
Sarah: (laughing) "Yes."
DJ: "Alright. When did you last have sex, Sarah?"
Sarah: "Oh God, Brian....uh, this morning before Brian went to work."
DJ: "What time?"
Sarah: "Around 8 this morning."
DJ: "Very good. Next question. How long did it last?"
Sarah: "12, 15 minutes maybe."
DJ: "Hmmmm. That's close enough. I am sure she is trying to protect
his manhood. We've got one last question, Sarah. You are
one question away from a trip to Florida. Are you ready?"
Sarah: (laughing) "Yes."
DJ: "Where did you have it?"
Sarah: "OH MY GOD, BRIAN!! You didn't tell them that, did you?"
Brian: "Just tell him, honey."
DJ: "What is bothering you so much, Sarah?"
Sarah: "Well, it's just that my mom is vacationing with us and..."
DJ: Come on Sarah.....where did you have it?
Sarah: "In the ass....."
After a long pause, the DJ said, "Folks, we need to take a station break"
Number #3
THE GEOGRAPHY OF A WOMAN
Between 18 and 20 a woman is like Africa, half discovered, half wild, naturally beautiful with fertile deltas.
Between 21 and 30 a woman is like America, well developed and open to trade especially for someone with cash.
Between 31 and 35 she is like India, very hot, relaxed and convinced of her own beauty.
Between 36 and 40 a woman is like France. Gently aging but still a warm and desirable place to visit.
Between 41 and 50 she is like Yugoslavia, lost the war - haunted by past mistakes. Massive reconstruction is now necessary.
Between 51 and 60, she is like Russia, very wide and borders are unpatrolled. The frigid climate keeps people away.
Between 61 and 70, a woman is like Mongolia, with a glorious and all conquering past but alas, no future.
After 70, they become Afghanistan. Most everyone knows where it is, but no one wants to go there.
THE GEOGRAPHY OF A MAN (this is really cool...)
Between 15 and 70 a man is like Iraq - ruled by a dick. :roll:
You probably won't be surprised to hear that my mom's pumpkin pie is the only kind I actually enjoy. Like you, I find most of them *eh*.
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